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Huckabee wouldn't have a chance in the general election, so that might be the way to go...do they have emergency wash stations at your polling place though?
No, but it's just right across from my house, so I'll be able to dash home after and disinfect myself.
Is Ron Paul still in the race? The more votes he gets in the primary, the more likely he'll go third party in November. A Huckabee vote may put him on the ticket, which, longer term, is not good.
Oh, interesting idea...yes, Ron Paul would make a good nutjob splitter for the general election.
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you voiced some of the things i have been thinking about with this election...

<I>John McCain is a member of a small club of people I once deeply respected and now wouldn't cross the street to spit on if he were on fire. (Colin Powell is also a member of that club.)</I>

I'm with you. While I didn't always agree with John McCain, I used to respect him and think he was a good guy, but now I just fear him.

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A friend of mine is a corporate lobbyist and she thinks McCain is an all-around asshole of a person.

And she's a hardcore Republican.

I'm waiting to have an epiphany prior to our primary election on Tuesday. If I could figure out who has the better chance of winning the Big One, that will help if I'm going for Hillary or Obama. Obama belongs to the same church denomination as I do, but that's not enough to outweigh a coin flip or a rousing round of Eeny Meeny Miney Mo.

I second throwing your vote away on Ron Paul, in the hopes that it encourages him to make a third-party run. He could be the GOP's Ralph Nader!

I totally agree with you about McCain. And it shows just how awful his--or his advisors'--timing and judgement is, because sucking up to the far-right now, while the country is ready to move back towards the middle, is retarded.

I'm back. Have you considered Romney? I don't think either of the democratic candidates would "go there", but his religion would surely keep him out of office...after McCain's current surge, Romney could use a bit of a push to still be considered a candidate. Just a thought.
That's a good point, too. Romney already has some momentum to balance against McCain. So hard to choose!
Colin Powell broke my heart. I think he could have stopped all of this before it even started - he had that much power - and rolled over instead.

John McCain - I had a great deal of respect for him once but I honestly think he has lost his mind or has had some sort of psychotic break. Now he's just scary.

I'm not registered as anything anywhere because I refuse to be classified. My dossier is probably thick enough as it is. ;)
Saw a great interview on Bill Moyers' Journal, with Shelby Steele. He had some very new (to me anyway) perspectives on Obama. They weren't all good, but enlightening and well thought out.

I don't envy you your dilemma...
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Well that was fun...my grandfather voted Republican for like forever - because Lincoln was a Republican - until Goldwater stood against Civil Rights legislation. You'd have liked my grandfather. Could spin a hell of a story (or "lie his ass off".. .take your pick).

Like you, I picked Biden early and then lost interest after he dropped out. I'm more fascinated by what the Dems are not saying than by what they are saying. But I'm not compelled particularly either way (though Obama is starting to break through to my idealistic youth, thought long dead).

McCain wants to be president so bad he'll do anything. Won't they all?

Anyway my point (and I do have one) is, as my grandfather would say, "Just pick one of the sons a bitches and get back to work. Nothing's a sure bet except dying."

That and taxes. I know what you mean about "idealistic youth." Sometimes when I hear an Obama clip I feel a little flutter somewhere under my solar plexus, but inevitably when I really look at the facts the flutter dies a sad little death. Oy.
Sounds like your grandfather was a lot of fun at family gatherings. I would have loved to have met him.

John McCain is a member of a small club of people I once deeply respected and now wouldn't cross the street to spit on if he were on fire. (Colin Powell is also a member of that club.)

I'm with you on this one. As a registered Democrat, I always respected McCain because he seemed to be his own person. He stood up to Bush, the Republicans, the Democrats...all of them.

And then visions of the White House started dancing in his head.....and he flip-flopped worse than John Kerry ever did.

As I watched the Florida returns last night, it gave me a twinge of sadness that I used to think so highly of him and now he seems to regurgitate the same old crap that they all do.

If you were raised by Abraham Lincoln Republicans, Ron Paul is the only candidate your ancestors would approve of. He doesn't really have a chance, and I'm not entirely sure I think it would be a good thing for him to go third-party since I think he'd take a sizable portion of the young vote away from anyone worth electing while still not making it to the Oval Office. Many things about Ron Paul personally are a bit wacky, and yet, the one thing I trust is that he wouldn't make his opinions law unless the Constitution expressly supported it.

My great hope for Ron Paul is that he galvanizes a new generation of Constitutionalists.

My problem is that I don't trust "strict Constitutionalists." Because if we'd followed the "strict" Constitutional guideline 88 years ago, I wouldn't be able to vote.
I have NO idea who I'm voting for...so you're not alone!
I don't have a strong opinion to give advice -- I suppose either Huckabee or Paul would do. I'm trying to determine which one I would more shockworthy if I had to say I voted for one of them. They're just so nuts (in their own ways) that it's a toss-up for me.

I do hope that you are going to post about the caucus itself afterwards-- that would be fascinating to hear an insider's perspective, and you're such a good writer that it would be doubly entertaining.
You've got 9 more days, maybe the field will narrow more before then and you won't have a choice... Doesn't that suck? That all the "good" candidates are gone by the time those of us that care actually get to vote.
Plus McCain's "straight talk" isn't.

Yeah, I was an Edwards supporter too. Oh well.
RedZ, is yours a primary or a caucus?

Mine's a primary. Plus trying to figure out the damn propositions. Frankly, I'm leaning towards "a pox on all your houses" on those b/c I'm soooo tired of the ads. They started running some of them six months ago and I was all "wtf? election?"

saska, that's a valid fear about Paul -- but would the young'uns who'd vote for him have turned out for Hillary or Obama even if he wasn't running? Doubtful. Like RedZ pointed out, "strict constitutionalists" wouldn't have let Hillary vote, let alone run, and they'd have counted the lovely Barack as 3/5 of a person.

"Mitt" is just too car salesman for me, the religion thing is nothing compared to the fact that I want to cover myself in degreaser after I see him.

ditto what others said on McCain and Powell.
LT: It's a caucus, and it's not even on "Super Tuesday," so it may be utterly pointless to worry about it. The Dems caucus on Tuesday, but the Repub caucus is that following Saturday.
Yeah, that isn't worth worrying much about.
Can someone give me the Coles' notes on what the diff is between an Abe Lincoln Republican and a modern Republican? kthxbai.
The really short version is this: When people say "Abe Lincoln Republican" they mean "Republicans back before they became religio-crazy wackjobs and corporate greed bastards." Basically, the kind of Republicans who had some basic decency and integrity. Who believed in things like equality, freedom, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Historically, Repubs supported the abolition of slavery, women's suffrage and oh-so-briefly the civil rights movement.
I see.

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