Exxon reports record profits while giving America the finger

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ugh, this all makes me so sick. also I remember a couple years ago how the oil company CEOs were taking home like 3 million dollar (or was it 30 million) BONUSES, all the while crying wahhhh, the oil companies have no choice but to charge a lot for gas, yadda yadda. But i agree it's the fucking government. Isn't it funny how for so long they acted like it just wasn't that easy to come up with a fuel efficient car and now every car company has hybrids or cars with 30+ mpg efficiency? Like the technology was just discovered. whoopeeee!
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I saw the headline (and have seen the exact same one before) this morning but couldn't click on it. We're so fucked.
Ok... I'm gonna agree with you but I'm going to take a different approach. Increasing CAFE standards isn't the issue here, people want to save money on gas, they want to be able to drive further for cheaper, making an archaic law saying they have to do this when there is as you say... only one option isn't exactly an ideal solution in my mind.

Cars with great milage exist, but import laws prevent them from entering the country. Many of these laws the average American, (and Canadian) support because they keep domestic manufacturers in business

Canada has a car that produces zero emissions in production right now but there is only one province in within it that allows the car to be sold there. Why is this? Because Oil companies protect their holdings more rabidly than a longhorn with mad cow disease. They work with the car manufacturers to lobby the government with the very real threat of job loss and facility closures. And the government caves because the oil and auto industries are massive gargantuan affairs that are some of the only industries in existance that can afford to pay the average worker of a developed nation a wage that can allow him or her to maintain their way of life.

Anyhow... off topic. You're right, but I don't think there's a need for environmental law, we want more efficient vehicles, I think the first order of business would be to decrease tariffs on fuel efficent automobiles and stop stonewalling these cars from getting into the country.
No, I think it's totally on-topic, because it relates to my complaint--it's not the oil industry or auto makers at fault. Their job is to screw people out of money. The government's job is to protect us--otherwise, why bother? And they can do that by increasing the CAFE standard, making it stick, and yes, opening the way for imports--which would finally force our auto makers to compete.

Yeah, but what will ever be done about it? Nothing we say or do will change shite with places like Exxon or OUR government. It makes me sick and pisses me off.

Anyway, it's Friday, so I'll try to smile.

And of course when states like California try to take the lead, the Bush administration screws them by having the head of the EPA ignore its own scientists and prohibit the state from increasing standards and further regulating tailpipe emissions.

There's a new car coming from Nissan that looks a lot like the old model Scion XB - it's called The Cube, has massive amounts of storage room and gets 40 MPG. Great for families. I have a MINI Cooper. I get 30 in my normal driving and 35 + on long freeway trips.

American automakers have been utter idiots, for the most part. I remember back way back in the 70s, when gas went up so much and there was a huge demand for fuel efficient cars. You'd think they would have learned their lesson then. But no.
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I'd like to think that Sunoco has better practices than Exxon, but I might be mislead like many of the American public. I think probably all the oil companies are crooks right now.
BTW, I live in LA and work in the entertainment industry. Since I went Mini in 03, I've seen a huge shift in what people drive. Prius (Priuii?), Minis, etc. The number of massive SUVs has dropped dramatically.
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Exxon is the most evil oil company out of all of them. GRRRR.
The California situation pisses me off the most, because that's essentially the free market at work--Californians want more fuel efficient cars and their politicians have listened to their desires--but the federal government has once again quashed the free market to kowtow to their donors.

I disagree with the blanket statement that the oil companies aren't to blame. I think that is an almost absurd statement. I made a point about this a little over a week ago, and it's even more true reading this now. Oil companies justify the high cost of gasoline by bringing up the rising prices of crude oil, refinery problems, and supply concerns. What is often ignored is the lack of new refineries and improvements and repairs on existing refineries, which impact the supply side of things. Even when taking into consideration the rising cost of crude, the oil companies and the government want to point the finger at OPEC in an effort to push the blame away from themselves. Nearly any other company in any other industry has been dealing with increased costs for raw materials or transportation, and they often have to take a cut in profits to maintain affordable prices for the consumer. A plastics company deals with rising petroleum costs, but the price of a plastic bottle has not increased at a rate anywhere close to fuel. Oil companies are posting huge gains because they are not willing to sacrifice even the smallest percentage of a cent in an effort to keep prices affordable. Another example I use often is fast food. The cost of transporting items to fast food places has increased dramatically with the cost of fuel, yet your hamburger still costs the same. The fast food company is taking the hit on their profits, because if they raise the prices, people will stop eating at their restaurant. For example, your hamburger cost a dollar, and 35 cents of that is profit. When gas prices go up, the hamburger is still a dollar, but now only 30 cents are profit. If we consider the Exxon method, that hamburger would now cost more, but rather than profits decreasing slightly, they would probably double. If materials costs and development costs have increased, profit should have either decreased or remained flat, not skyrocketed.

Oil companies get away with this mathematical formula because fuel is a neccessity. Anyone can live without a hamburger, but nobody with an automobile can operate it without fuel. They are hitting us with high prices, and will continue to get away with it because there are no regulations to protect consumers. Oil companies still get huge tax incentives, despite posting record profits. Thanks in part to Cheney's meeting with Big Oil, our national energy policy is practically written by the oil companies. You say we should point the finger at government, which I partially agree with, but to absolve Exxon of any blame for their part is absurd. There is a point where you can blame someone for absolute greed, and this is a prime example. Countless other industries are suffering because they have taken the hit with rising fuel and/or raw materials costs, and this is weighing heavy on our entire economy. If Exxon and other oil companies were less greedy, the entire economy would get a boost from either lower costs for consumer goods or steady profits for other companies, which in turn would reduce the number of layoffs and company closures.

Sorry, man, but I think it's absurd to suggest that a business has any obligation beyond making money for its shareholders. They don't exist to serve customers. No business does. Businesses exist to make money. Are they greedy fucking bastards? Yessirree. Should they have an obligation not to be? Nope. That's the government's role--to regulate business and protect the citizenry from price-gouging.
We live near Silicon Valley, and it's Prius Central. They're everywhere, common as can be. I don't know anyone who's bought a new American car in years.

I wish our Gov. was actually an ass-kicking robot or agent so he could scare the EPA into letting us have less pollution.
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rofl. that's a fantastic pic, redz!
Such a shock that they're making loads while we're having loads dropped on us.
Here's one reason their profits are so high: Mr.BrownA was chatting with a Petro-Canada VP one time. The guy said, "yeah, we're waiting for the government to wake up and realize that "premium" gasoline doesn't cost us any more to make, yet we can charge the consumer way more for it." All it would take is for someone in the regulatory department to say, "yo, wait a minute guys, you can't do that."
Oh, you beat me to it.
Just like the equation for "best completed literary work" (A writer who loves words, plus an editor who hates them), the best business equation seems to be businesses that understand efficiency and profit and a regulatory system to keep things from spinning out of control. But this equation doesn't really "work" when the same people who own the businesses are allowed to write the legislation that shapes the framework.

Abramoff!

You know what I miss? The days before Hugo Chavez went completely fucking nuts, and I could get some smug satisfaction from purchasing gasoline from Citgo, a wholly-owned Venezuelan subsidiary. Not that I'm all that enthusiastic about needing to buy gasoline in the first place, but just the fact that Bush finds him irritating was a little perk.
But now, Hugo's gone all Lord of the Flies on us, and I can't even associate with Citgo without feeling creeped out and depressed at the inevitability of fascism. You know who Chavez reminds me of now?

Benjamin Linus. Benjamin effing Linus, the crazy, bug-eyed manipulative little creep from Lost. Hmm. Do you think this means my daily existence has become overly mediated? Only grad-school dorks need reply.

Do you think this means my daily existence has become overly mediated? Only grad-school dorks need reply.

Yes. After all, that's how "Cultural Studies" took over otherwise previously respectable English Departments. Everybody stopped evaluating life through literature, history, psychology, etc. and decided they wanted to evaluate the world using the characters from Gilligan's Island.


Well, I did reference Lord of the Flies first.

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